810senior
Senior Member
Japanese
- Jul 4, 2015
- #1
I wonder if your language concludes a specific term about this sitting posture that appears in an attached image.
In this sitting, the butt is on the floor and both legs bend backwards in both side of the body. It's been considered that the men can't make such a posture due to pelvic problems(there are a few men able to make it that way) and that's why we call it girl's sitting, 女の子座りonnanoko zuwari in Japanese.
We have other variations about this as well: wariza(dividing sitting), ahiruzuwari(duck's sitting), petanzuwari, pettankozuwari(flat sitting, flat girl's sitting), obaachanzuwari(grandmother's sitting) etc.
How about your language?
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Radioh
Senior Member
Sydney, Australia
Vietnamese
- Jul 4, 2015
- #2
Ah, cute. I've seen it a lot in manga/anime. Sorry~ we do have something like "dáng ngồi con gái"(girl sitting) but I'm not sure what it means to others. To me it is like this:
http://www.hellodoctor.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/Sitting-cross-legged.jpg
rusita preciosa
Senior Member
USA (Φιλαδέλφεια)
Russian (Moscow)
- Jul 4, 2015
- #3
I cant't think of a specific term in Russian for that pose.
Generally, I don't think many adults (let alone grandmas) can comfortably sit like this, I associate the posture with a small child (boy or girl).
Messquito
Senior Member
台灣台北 Taipei, Taiwan
Chinese - Taiwan 中文 Taiwanese Hokkien 臺語
- Jul 4, 2015
- #4
I think it is like 跪坐 in Chinese, but it doesn't really have to involve the shanks splitting to the sides.
810senior
Senior Member
Japanese
- Jul 4, 2015
- #5
I guess 跪坐 is even closer to 正座 in Japanese, kneeling with the tops of the feet on the floor. (this posture doesn't involve the two legs bending to the sides of the body)
Encolpius
Senior Member
Praha
Hungarian
- Mar 23, 2016
- #6
810senior said:
..We have other variations about this as well: wariza(dividing sitting), ahiruzuwari(duck's sitting), petanzuwari, pettankozuwari(flat sitting, flat girl's sitting), obaachanzuwari(grandmother's sitting) etc. How about your language?
I do not know any type of Hungarian girl sitting.
But if someone is interested in yoga, there are many types of sitting.
Can you, please, write the original Japanese words for the rest of the types of sitting? I am mostly interested in the grandmother sitting.
twinklestar
Senior Member
China
Chinese
- Mar 24, 2016
- #7
Hi,
In Chinese, it is named "双手垂坐" which refers to the appropriate sitting posture of women in ancient China. The meaning of the Chinese phrase is same as what you state in Japanese characters. The Chinese phrase is obsolete nowadays because most Chinese people sit on chairs unlike there is tatami on which Japanese women have to still to sit appropriately, and elegantly in Japan.
The etymology of 女-woman is derived from the sitting posture of a woman. Please see the attachment.
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810senior
Senior Member
Japanese
- Mar 25, 2016
- #8
Encolpius said:
I do not know any type of Hungarian girl sitting.
But if someone is interested in yoga, there are many types of sitting.
Can you, please, write the original Japanese words for the rest of the types of sitting? I am mostly interested in the grandmother sitting.
Grandmother sitting is almost the same as girl's sitting as mentioned as a synonym in my first post, so do others. I guess it may be a good idea to try posting a thread about other sitting postures.
@twinklestar, hello, good to know it, let me thank you for the information!
To me it looks a little bit different from the one named girl's sitting in Japanese. As far as I know, both legs are bent outwards in girl's sitting, as seen in the picture I posted.
twinklestar
Senior Member
China
Chinese
- Mar 25, 2016
- #9
810senior said:
@twinklestar, hello, good to know it, let me thank you for the information!
To me it looks a little bit different from the one named girl's sitting in Japanese. As far as I know, both legs are bent outwards in girl's sitting, as seen in the picture I posted.
You're welcome. I also learn from you and other people here too. Thank you too.
I stand correct. But if girls are in kimono, is it till possible for them to maintain a posture with calfs outwards?
Do Japanese women sit like this if they sit on chair, or bench, etc?
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ilocas2
Banned
Czech
- Oct 16, 2016
- #10
Czech:
sed/sedění/sezení do W - sitting into W
sed/sedění/sezení mezi patami/patičkami - sitting between heels/little heels
Awwal12
Senior Member
Moscow, the RF
Russian
- Oct 16, 2016
- #11
rusita preciosa said:
Generally, I don't think many adults (let alone grandmas
) can comfortably sit like this
You probably forget that European peoples (and particularly North European ones) historically were sitting on stools and other elevated furniture. The East Asia, on the other hand, has a long tradition of sitting on the floor or various mats. And despite Chinese have mostly adopted chairs during the course of the Middle ages, it's still not the case for other East Asian folks (including Japanese), where stools and chairs remain clear markers of the modern Western culture.
As a result of such historical development, squatting is probably the main way all Europeans sit when they have no stool to sit on (it's REALLY uncomfortable, to think about it, but in the same time it's suitable even for sitting outdoors in cold climates typical for the northern parts of Europe), while East Asians preserve other postures for rather comfortable sitting indoors. And, after all, the sitting posture is a matter of habit.
apmoy70
Senior Member
Attica, but of Thessalian origin
Greek
- Oct 16, 2016
- #12
The closest I can think of in Greek is the adverb «ανακούρκουδα» [anaˈkurkuða] probably from the Koine expression «ἀνὰ κλωκυδά» ănằ klōkudắ --> sitting in a squatting position (with obscure etymology, possibly Pre-Greek).
«Ανακούρκουδα» is sitting like this.
There's also an ancient adverb still used today, «οκλαδόν» [oklaˈðon] < Classical verb «ὀκλάζω» ŏklázō --> to prostrate, crouch down, squat > Classical adverb «ὀκλαδόν» ŏkladón --> sitting crouchingly, squattingly, prostratingly.
«Οκλαδόν» is sitting like this.
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